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What would you do? Poker hand of the Week.

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change of game plan since it was a buy-in with only 45 ppl,I'd probably fold and stay in the game.I should have payed more attention...just like when I'm playing,no wonder I lose more than I win!!LOL

 

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I'd call...just cuz I like to live life on the wild side LOL LOL but seriously Id take in the fact that they are playing with rubbish...and winning :-pp and yep...call and hope for the best. ;D

 

change of game plan since it was a buy-in with only 45 ppl,I'd probably fold and stay in the game.I should have payed more attention...just like when I'm playing,no wonder I lose more than I win!!LOL

 

 

LOL Rosebud.  Actually I did do your original gut instinct, I called.

 

The player showed 9c.gif  9s.gif.

 

I hit another Queen on the flop and he lost and was out of the game.  I only called because of the poor play I had seen in previous hands (not from this player though). 

 

He was absolutely furious swearing and cursing me.  I just said "you made a mistake".  I didn't want to rise too much to his bait.  He obviously closed the table after his bad language attack on me, as no further comments were made.

 

Needless to say, I didn't go on to win/place.  It was very late at night and I really just felt so tired and wanted to get to bed.  Can't remember what I called on - must have been a rubbish hand!

 

Thank you both for your replies.  Much appreciated.

 

blue

 

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yea i think i would have called too Blu , simply because it is a pair in hand only with two other pairs higher.. i'd think it was good chances at that tables's atmosphere.

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btw i got my first elusive Royal Flush in a push to me at all in , over on the Merge network last week.. was a freeroll though and my stack was limping , so there wasn't much to it's win.

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btw i got my first elusive Royal Flush in a push to me at all in , over on the Merge network last week.. was a freeroll though and my stack was limping , so there wasn't much to it's win.

 

Shame you didn't take a screenshot of it, it would have been nice to see.

 

Well done Tim.

 

yea i think i would have called too Blu , simply because it is a pair in hand only with two other pairs higher.. i'd think it was good chances at that tables's atmosphere.

 

I agree, it's not a bad hand but with the luck that had been going on previously (other players), I was concerned.

 

blue

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This is a 20c R & A tournament on AdamevePoker for a ticket to the next stage of the Paris WPT.  This really is a low value tournament with really poor players. 

 

I've been watching one particular player who has been raising big with 5 7 off suit, 8 10, 7 9 etc.  I'm BB and I have  2c.gif  2h.gif.  I've been min raised by this fish and normally, with such a small pocket pair, I would fold.  I decided to call purely because of how this player had played his previous hands.

 

The flop comes down ks.gif  qh.gif  td.gif and the opponent bets min bet.

 

What would you do here?

 

blue

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It's a good hand you got there but if it were me, I probably would fold due to the fact that other players might have hands with bigger suits.

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It depends on my last few hands....

 

If I had a few strong hands that I took down (say 3 out of 6) where at least 1 went to showdown. I would go for the bluff since I would have a decent intimidation factor working for me. If 1/4 my stack > or = 2xpot. 2xpot is what I would bet.

 

Now if I was new at the table or my past few hands were call/fold. I may raise by 4xmin just hoping for fold. If not I would flat call and see what happens on the turn. Unless it's later in the tourny where blinds are big, I would not fold to a min bet.

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i'd have to say i think i would fold .. and wait out another chance.. agreeing with Nan too much chance a donk has a single face card in his hand .

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Because this player bet the minimum, I really thought he had nothing at all plus based on the hands that he had been raising on, I thought he would have 5 7 off or something like that.

 

When I did what I did I actually amazed myself because I just went all in.  There was no hesitation on his part and he just folded straight away.  I had read him right and won the pot.

 

I think it was a risky move but in the circumstances, the right move.

 

Thank you everyone for replying.  I do appreciate it.

 

blue

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This was an old hand from a few years ago that I've never forgotten.  The reason I've never forgotten it is because it was televised! 

 

Each Saturday on Sky Poker, they used to hold the Poker Open which was always shown on TV after the event.  One week I decided to buy into the tourney which was a £10 buy in.  They still run and televise this event.

 

The play was terrible and I'd been watching a particular player who bet so high, everyone kept folding to his bets and we never got to see his hands.  He was basically stealing everyones blinds.

 

The tournament is about half way through, I'm BB and I'm dealt 4d.gif  4h.gif.  I've been playing really tight but I'm in the top 33% of the remaining field. 

 

The blind stealing person decides he wants to steal my blinds and bets 1200.  I think the blinds were about 200/400 at the time.

 

What would you do in this situation taking into account all the details above, the previous play and not seeing this guys hands plus the fact that this is also being televised!

 

blue

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How very cool blue!! Boy this one is a real tough one. I'd know what'd I'd with a higher pair but 4's.....and with one one playing steal the blind...chip bully (?) ...I'm gonna think on this one...sorry blue.

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How very cool blue!! Boy this one is a real tough one. I'd know what'd I'd with a higher pair but 4's.....and with one one playing steal the blind...chip bully (?) ...I'm gonna think on this one...sorry blue.

 

There's no rush Rosebud.  Take your time.

 

blue

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Blue,since you were in the top 33% and he's pretty much buying the pot since no one has really called him that much,I'd call the 1200 and hope  two 4's came up ;) LOL.I really don't like playing against ppl like that...what's the skill in playing that way.I played on a freeroll that the top 10 finish in the money...usually under a 100 players and one guy goes all-in every hand !! :/After about 15-20 hands I get AA and think I might as well try and of course i have him all the way to the river but he then gets a straight >:( :`o  sometimes I hate that darn river !! LOL Let us know what you did and if you beat the pants off him !! :-[ :-[ LOL

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Rose - I think you've waited long enough and it doesn't look as though anybody else will reply.

 

I should add that not all hands were shown on the TV show as it would have lasted all day and all night.  But this hand was actually shown.

 

This is what happened.  I re-raised him because I felt that I was in front based on this players previous play.  He just flat called.

 

The flop was something along the lines of kc.gif  js.gif  2s.gif.  The turn was  6h.gif and the river 6c.gif.

 

Nothing on the board helped my hand and we both just checked it down to the river.  It was weird to see my hand on the show and the comments they made during the hand were "bold move by bluehaze there" "she can take this down if she bets now" and "I don't think bluehaze knows where she is in this hand".  He was so right.  I really wasn't sure where I was in the hand or whether I was winning or not.

 

I actually did win and I don't recall exactly the opponents hand but he certainly didn't have an ace or a picture.

 

blue

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That would really be weird to hear them commenting on your play!!I'm glad to hear that you won tho.

 

It was weird and exciting Rosebud. 

 

blue

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This is a cheap tourney on PokerStars (10c).

 

360 players start the multi table tournament and there are about 100 left.  I'm pretty low in the leaderboard and need to get me some chips.  Blinds are 100/200.

 

I'm dealt ad.gif  kd.gif and I'm in mid position.  One player flat calls as do I and BB checks.  The flop comes down ah.gif  qc.gif  7h.gif.  

 

BB bets 200 and the other caller just flat calls.  I thought I would see if anybody really had anything and decided to raise to 600.  BB raises all in and the other player re-raises all in.

 

Would you call?  You will have a few hundred chips left if you do.  What would you do?

 

blue

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Well blue, I am just learning how to play poker online, but I'd like to try and answer this.

I would definitely call in this situation. Neither the BB or the other player were overly excited about their hole cards so I doubt either had anything as good as your A-K suited. So it seems BB is trying to buy the pot with his all-in and the other player responds in kind trying to do the same with his all-in raise. I don't see anything in the flop that would improve their hands enough to beat your Aces. So there you have it...

 

Can't wait to hear what you did and how it came out.

 

katt

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Blue,since it was a cheap tourney and you  are already in for 600 chips and you do have a pair of A's,I'd go all-in :) and hope for the best :-bd

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Great replies Katt and Rosebud.

 

I did, of course, call.  I thought it was pretty safe bearing in mind nobody raised and the two players that were in the hand had played quite a few hands (limping in).

 

 

BB revealed their hand.....qs.gif  5d.gif

 

The player that flat called reveals his hand....as.gif  ac.gif

 

The turn and river were hearts and nobody had a heart so they didn't make the flush and neither of these two cards helped anyone.

 

I was pretty gutted that the player slow played his aces.  Personally, I think it's a very dangerous move and I never slow play them.

 

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Wow, bummer... never would have expected those 2 aces! Glad it was a very low-cost tourney or you would have been a whole lot more gutted!

 

Like I said I am newly learning so may I ask what it means to "slow play" the aces? Why is it dangerous? And how should it be done?

 

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katt

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Wow, bummer... never would have expected those 2 aces! Glad it was a very low-cost tourney or you would have been a whole lot more gutted!

 

Like I said I am newly learning so may I ask what it means to "slow play" the aces? Why is it dangerous? And how should it be done?

 

thanks

katt

 

Good question Katt.

 

Basically, when you have pocket aces you should raise the bet by at least 6 x BB but I usually do 10 or more.  You don't want the fish getting lucky wiht their 2 3 off suit.  

 

Sometimes (and quite often) you will get players who slow play their aces i.e. they don't raise the pot pre-flop.  They limp in by calling the amount of the Big Blind leading you (and everyone else) into a false sense of security.  

 

I've seen a lot of players slow playing their aces and losing to rubbish hands.  An example would be BB has 9d.gif  2s.gif and you have  ad.gif  ac.gif.  You don\'t raise the BB and just you and BB are in the hand.  The flop comes down  2d.gif  9s.gif  td.gif.  You have pocket Aces still but the opponent has two pairs.  If no other cards arrive on the table that will assist your hand, you have lost.

 

It is a very dangerous play NOT to raise or "slow play" aces.  I would rather just take the blinds than lose to a rubbish hand like that.  Oh and if you get any callers on your big raise, your next move is all in.  Don't let anyone draw on a straight or a flush.

 

I hope this helps.

 

blue

 

EDIT:  Katt - check out this little corker from way back when - the power of the pre-flop raise

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