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"In the waning hours of his presidency, George Bush is pushing to effectively outlaw online gambling in the United States. These efforts have met strident opposition by Democrats, proponents of Internet betting, and even some financial institutions.

 

The Bush administration's pursuit of these prohibitive laws follows on the coattails of a rider vaguely prohibiting online betting that was included in a piece of 2006 legislation ostensibly dealing with the security of U.S. ports. While that rider did, in fact, become law, its unclear language -- leaving open the question of what constitutes online gambling -- has left it largely unenforceable. President Bush and Congressional Republicans hope to clarify that language and outlaw the Internet practice before President-Elect Obama and the slew of newly elected Democratic Congress members take office."

 

 

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Hmm - surprised no USA players commented on that bit of news.

 

Anyway - here is another bit of poker news.  Pokerwize poker site is ceasing to exist as of 15th February 2009.  One of the few 3D poker sites - this was great fun to play at.  Some of the emotes were good fun - you could even put your feet on the table!

 

What a shame its going.  ::)

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Interesting ruling in Kentucky regarding 141 gaming sites that were trying to be seized.

 

The ruling said that a doman name is not a gambling device i.e. it is not mechanical.  Apparenty 13000 people in Kentucky use online casinos.  Until a doman name is classed as a gambling device, the state of Kentucky cannot seize the domains.

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From the Associated Press

 

MOUNT PLEASANT, S.C. (AP) — A South Carolina judge has ruled that Texas Hold 'em poker is a game of skill, a ruling that could prevent police from arresting people taking part in a friendly game of poker.

 

Mount Pleasant Municipal Judge Larry Duffy on Thursday wrote that there is "overwhelming" evidence that the card game is one of skill, not chance. State law outlaws gambling on games of chance with cards or dice.

 

In the past several years, police in South Carolina have raided homes to break up poker games.

 

Still, Duffy's order doesn't help the case of five men he found guilty of operating a gambling house, who must now pay fines.

 

About 20 people were arrested in that raid almost three years ago. The others settled their cases by paying fines.

 

 

 

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UIGEA better get repealed (or else I might just move to Canada!).

 

Join the PPA, write to Congress, donate time or money--anything you can do to stop the government from taking your rights away!

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The latest news could affect your ability to get at your money be it poker or casino.  Please do read the below from Poker news daily.

 

Minnesota Department of Public Safety Discusses Internet Gambling Ban

 

By Dan Cypra for POKER NEWS DAILY | Posted on April 30, 2009

 

John Willems, Director of the Minnesota Department of Public Safety’s Alcohol and Gambling Enforcement Division, is leading the effort to compel internet service providers (ISP) to block state residents' access to at least 200 websites. He sat down with Poker News Daily to discuss the written notice served to ISPs this week.

 

Poker News Daily: The basis for the blockage is that internet gaming sites are illegal under the Wire Act, which has traditionally applied to online sports betting. In addition, the list of 200 websites has not yet been made public. What can you share with us about what sites will be affected?

 

Willems: The Wire Act has been used in other arenas as well. The list, which is only 200 out of literally thousands of websites, was selected at random without regards to what type of internet gambling each site is engaged in. Online poker would fall within that possibility.

 

This is a new process for everyone involved. There are differing opinions on the issue and we respect that. We initiated a civil notice. We haven’t seized property or discontinued service. We requested that the telecom companies not allow Minnesota customers, and only Minnesota customers, to be able to access them. Online gambling has been held to be illegal by the past three Attorney Generals and Minnesota is one of the first states to take action.

 

PND: Do you plan to pursue any of the internet gamblers directly or just use ISP blockage to stunt the industry?

 

Willems: We’re not pursuing any of the bettors and we’re not keeping people from accessing their money. We wanted to let everyone in the world know what we were up to in order to be transparent. We wanted to let them know that if we were successful, it might impact their ability to get funds they may have online. The last thing that we wanted to do was surprise everyone. Our actions have also increased the level of conversation on this topic.

 

PND: Minnesota has tribal casinos, card rooms at racetracks, and a state lottery, among other forms of gambling. Is the move, at least in part, due to wanting to protect the explicitly legal versions?

 

Willems: The motive is to deal with sizable illegal gambling activity and to use the most reasonable tool we can to deal with it. We are an enforcement agency that has very few tools available. As the contraction of the telecom industry has occurred, this statute seems much more viable today than it was before.

 

PND: What feedback has the Department of Public Safety received so far?

 

Willems: I hope we’ll have a mutually satisfying outcome to whatever occurs and I hope we’ll get good public policy because of it. It appears to me, based on voice messages and phone conversations, that the Poker Players Alliance must have contacted their membership because I’ve gotten a lot of feedback. I respect their viewpoint and understand it. As much as I can, I try to take the calls, but there are too many of them. I do understand their concerns and I’m not disrespectful of that, but there is a difference of opinion. If they want to make their case, they should also do so to the state’s policy makers.

 

PND: The press release notes, “U.S. code cited [for] first time in effort to halt illegal online gambling.” Talk about being the first such state to take action.

 

Willems: We can’t find any precedent elsewhere and we are doing it in a different way, on a different scale, and with a different attitude than has been done in the past. We understand there is a controversial aspect to it and we’re sorry for that. We’re enforcing the laws. If there is illegal gambling, we have to do our best to deal with it. That’s created some pushback by some people. Even in our own state, we have social card games, which are given direct instructions as to how they can operate, but they have not yet expanded online. The policy makers of Minnesota may want to dive into it.

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Hi Members,

 

Due to Minnesota's ban on Online Casinos (see full story under "Casinos"), some poker sites are effected.  Fulltilt Poker and Players Only are on the list to ban. Although Bodog is on the list...it targets the casino side and not the poker side.

 

Poker sites that are not on the list: Absolute Poker, Cake Poker, Carbon Poker, Doyles Room, Poker Stars and Ultimate Bet.

 

Sigh....what state is next?

 

Lipstick

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Lawmakers Bet on Internet Gambling Legislation

Reps. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, and Peter King, R-N.Y. unveiled legislation Wednesday that would enable Americans to legally gamble online.

 

You can read the full story here

 

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Hi Poker Players,

 

Since President Obama was elected in office his website (change.gov) began taking citizens thought's on issues where a change is needed. Under the "Technology" category on the site......header "Boost the Economy with Legal On Line Poker" took first place in this catergory!

 

This ranks number 11 in issues for this site. WTG  US poker players!

 

Lipstick

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Darn right too- I was horrified when the proverbial axe fell on US poker players.  It was never the same on the poker sites after that - I hated it and Im glad all poker players in the US are fighting for their right to be free to play "however they so wish" online.

 

blue

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this is why payments from pokerstars and fulltilt were bouncing!

the gov. is trying to seize the money saying it's illegal gambling money.

 

full article in the  Huffington Post.

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Hi Phantom,

 

I have read that it is still unclear why the checks are bouncing....and it is speculation whether the feds are responsible or not. Only after hundreds of complaints about bounced checks did the feds step in. If you could post the link where you read this article....i would like to read it.

 

thx,

Lips

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This is part of that link

 

In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture "because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses."

 

I have to say that the US are really taking this all just one step too far....money laundering for crying out loud.  What a joke.

 

blue

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Hi Blue,

 

I think this is over the top. It is down right stealing money. They are afraid of illegal activity? Someone please tell me what they did is legal or moral.

 

 

Lips

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Hey guys,

 

I received this email today and wanted to share it with everyone.

 

As we celebrate the freedoms we enjoy as Americans, we encourage you to take time to protect your freedom to play poker in all its forms with a few simple actions. Visit the National Poker Week website at www.nationalpokerweek.com to learn more about our efforts to protect your right to play poker whenever and wherever you want. On the National Poker Week website you can:

 

1. Sign the Poker Petition and join with thousands of other poker players to let President Obama know that you believe in personal freedom and want the rights of law abiding, poker-playing Americans protected.

 

2. Tell us your Poker Story—film a short, 30-second video (you can even use your cell phone!) and add your voice to the poker freedom movement!

 

3. Send a letter to Congress to protect your personal freedom and right to play poker at the time and place of your choosing.

 

Thank you for your continued efforts and have a Happy 4th of July.

 

Let our poker freedom ring!

 

Senator Alfonse D’Amato

PPA Chairman

 

The Poker Players Alliance

Dedicated to Protecting America's Favorite Card Game

 

 

 

 

 

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wow thats sucks 30million frozen  ??? here u can play every u want but when u will made a whitdraw for 1000$ or more to ur Bank Account they frozen ur Account for 5 days

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Judge Rules Online Poker Seizure Warrants Must Be Unsealed:

 

A filing by a gaming media company met with success today as a judge said warrants and affidavits used by the US Attorney's office to seize bank accounts related to online poker winnings had to be made public. The Department of Justice argued the documents needed to remain sealed to protect ongoing investigations, while Costigan Media, operator of Gambling911, contended the information legally had to be revealed.

 

 

Judge Laura Swain said the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York did not demonstrate compelling reason to keep the warrants sealed. She will allow key names to be redacted when the public copies are released.

 

US prosecutors had used warrants, some of which apparently were written after the fact, to grab the funds from several bank accounts used to channel money to US residents who had won at online poker rooms. As much as $40 million was taken, but players received money sent by the major Internet gambling sites to replace what the feds confiscated.

 

Joe Brennan of iMEGA says the judge did allow for the sealing of certain sections, most likely names of cooperating individuals and key witnesses. But he noted to Poker News Daily that the judge's order forces the DoJ to update her frequently, so that remaining information can be disclosed at an appropriate stage of the investigation.

 

“The Court is required to order disclosure absent compelling reasons to deny access and even then must employ the least restrictive means of doing so,” said Swain in her fourteen-page decision.

 

Lips

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Hi Lips - thanks for the info..interesting stuff for sure.

 

Do you think that online gambling will come back for US players or do you think that is it?

 

blue

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Hi Blue,

 

I think it will come back....in fact in my state...which is one of the restricted states....it was passed in the senate for on line poker and sportsbook betting.

 

It is now waiting for final say from our state governer. There seems to be these baby steps taken in other states as well. The door is cracked opened....where as a couple years ago it was slammed shut.

 

Lips

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